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Goodbye Without Leaving by Laurie Colwin
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bookshelves: new-york-state-of-mind, morning-glory-laurie, love-and-marriage, 90-from-the-1990s

This was Laurie Colwin's penultimate novel, and the last one she saw published before she died, unexpectedly, of an aneurysm, at the age of 48.

It's an unusual book, with a title that has nothing to do with the story, and a boring cover, to boot. I can also accuse it of meandering. Meaning: it lacks a central focus. But, although Ms. Colwin meanders in her storytelling, she manages to do what two other favorite writers of mine, Ray Bradbury and Boris Pasternak, do when they meander: stumble upon greatness.

This novel has a clumsy beginning, and a clumsy protagonist, Geraldine Coleshares, a grad student who is suffering from a “failure to launch” (or so her parents say).

Geraldine doesn't really want to do anything but sing and dance, and, it turns out, she's good at it. She manages to land a gig as the only white backup singer and dancer to a famous Black duo (think: Ike and Tina Turner).

Gerry's life, from that point on, is one of spontaneity and non-traditional roles. She knows how to “wail and boogie,” but family, friends and romantic partners want something different from her. Her struggle, throughout the 1970s, is a common one: what should she do, and what does she need to give up?

Her life goes from interesting to fascinating when she takes up with a foundation that is comprised of Holocaust survivors and she faces her own cultural identity as an “assimilated Jew.”

It's a quirky story, and I can imagine that some readers could find it too random, or a bit clumsy in parts but, to be honest, I cried on my front porch yesterday, as I closed the back cover.

I feel like Ms. Colwin sat down and started writing this, and she didn't stop until a dynamic story formed. Isn't that how some of our best stories are shared?

Sometimes we get so swept up in dotting our “i's” and crossing our “t's,” we lose the juicy bits.

There's a scene in this novel that I might think about for the rest of my life, when the now-married Geraldine meets a man that she senses she must know intimately:

When we connected, I felt a deep, inward shiver. This was not like having sex for having fun or having children. It did not seem to be about falling in love, or even about having a sexual encounter, but about some ancient, primitive longing desperate to be fulfilled. [He] was more like a destination than a person. Being near him gave me access to something I needed to know.

Frankly, I found this a riveting concept. We have placed so many legal and religious ideals on the institution of marriage for several centuries now, and, though I understand some of them (and have benefitted from several of them myself), I also wonder if we haven't also been shortsighted in the way we assume marriage should be. Do we stagnate? Do we limit ourselves too much?

Ms. Colwin never seemed to shy away from complicated subjects like these, and her writing works a little magic on you, too.

Oh, my heart! I want to read everything she wrote, but I never want the list to end.
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Reading Progress

November 13, 2022 – Started Reading
November 13, 2022 – Shelved
November 13, 2022 –
page 17
6.64% "My father was like a cloud, a fog, a mist. He ran an import and export business and thus had good times and bad, but the household power was held by my mother, who ruled majestically."
November 13, 2022 –
page 22
8.59% "To be effortlessly yourself is a blessing."
November 14, 2022 –
page 28
10.94% "How much does a mirror distort? Was it not a terrible ironic joke that, of all the people in the world you need to see clearly, the one person you can never clearly see is your own self?"
November 14, 2022 –
page 39
15.23% "The air was full of the smell of exhaust, of rain, of that salty smell of the river that reminds you that Manhattan is an island."
November 14, 2022 – Shelved as: new-york-state-of-mind
November 15, 2022 –
page 76
29.69% "You inherited your life, or you invented it."
November 18, 2022 –
page 143
55.86% ""We are constantly living the history of our own lives.""
November 19, 2022 –
page 155
60.55% ""Your problem. . . is that on the one hand you feel better than other people because you have never sold out or knuckled under, and on the other hand you feel worse than everyone else because you perceive them to be doing better or behaving better than you.""
November 19, 2022 – Shelved as: morning-glory-laurie
November 19, 2022 – Shelved as: love-and-marriage
November 19, 2022 – Shelved as: 90-from-the-1990s
November 19, 2022 –
page 177
69.14% "His immense eyebrows shot up from his little eyes, giving him the look of an astonished beaver."
November 19, 2022 –
page 182
71.09% "Her face was a mesh of fine, distinguished lines. It was clear she had been a great beauty in her youth."
November 20, 2022 –
page 194
75.78% ""Americans are very busy and ambitious. They do not rest. . . Here no one thinks that it is enough merely to be.""
November 22, 2022 – Finished Reading

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message 1: by Kimber (new)

Kimber I savored every word of this review!


message 2: by Lorna (new)

Lorna Beautiful, Julie.


message 3: by Sarah (last edited Nov 22, 2022 06:58PM) (new)

Sarah If we're not always moving toward a "deep, inward shiver" or trying to have a "little magic" worked on our hearts, what the eff is the point of it all, anyway?

My own mother has only slept with one man her entire life, and she is ridiculously satisfied in this area (trust me on this - I'll spare you the gory details).

But many others just... aren't. So, I appreciate Ms. Colwin's poking at this sacred cow. Polygamy was (and is) a thing in our global society, so marriage structures are obviously adaptable. Can't the tax and legal codes bend a little in America for the mental health of our married citizenry? 😂

I apologize for "meandering" here, but your review - and Ms. Colwin's scene - got me thinking!

Done now. Have a good night.


Julie G Kimber,
What a lovely comment. Thank you, especially because I labored over this review. I became more emotional than I thought I would, and it was a challenge to keep my focus.


Julie G Thanks, Lorna. I wonder if I'll be able to read any other books until I finish all of hers??


Julie G Sarah,
Thanks for making me laugh out loud, after reading about your mother's devotion. (Why do I want the gory details??).
I have two friends who have been together since the 1st grade. Well, technically they started dating in the 9th grade, but they held hands before that. They're a hetero couple, and she loves talking about how they are each their "one and only, forever and ever." He's never said a peep. Power to them, if that was and continues to be what they want, but, yeah, I wish people could make decisions about marriage without their parents, their government, or their religious neighbors getting involved.


message 7: by Bonnie G. (new)

Bonnie G. I am enjoying following your journey with Laurie Colwin. It might not be that intense inward shiver she describes and you report, but when we find that writer, our writer, there is some primitive connection, some longing fulfilled. There are all sorts of connection, and the words Laurie Colwin left are clearly part of your destiny. Your reviews make her immortal.


message 8: by Sarah (last edited Nov 22, 2022 09:47PM) (new)

Sarah So funny, Julie. My mom didn't know my dad had two pre-marriage sexual partners until she was 50 years old (at which point, they'd been married 32 years)! When I asked dad why he never told her, he said, "she never asked!" And when I pressed for more details in a clandestine father-daughter discussion, he obliged (in a pretty chaste manner), and then got very quiet and almost whispered: she was so mad at me when she found out.

This makes me wonder about your friends; specifically, about the male partner's silence on the matter!

Hell hath no fury like a virgin bride scorned.

And yes about the laws and such. Just look at Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russell! Only a common-law marriage, and they are STILL so hot for each other!


Julie G Bonnie,
Your comment is so kind. Thank you. I feel a real connection with her. I really do.
By the way--I highly recommend both this one and HAPPY ALL THE TIME to you. I thought of you while I was reading it.
xoxo


Julie G Sarah,
I love this story! It's so funny that your dad confided in you. It's interesting what you might say, years later, once the "pressure" is off, on keeping something a secret. After a certain amount of time, you don't even remember who knows anyway!
(Oh, and, yes, I *suspect* that my friend's beloved husband sewed a few oats when he went to a different school than she did. He's extraordinarily quiet on the subject of the "one and only" business).


Julie G Or, maybe I should call it the "one and done" business?


message 12: by Sarah (new)

Sarah Oh, this is fun. Might we also call it the "one pump jump" business?
I wish your friend well in his extraordinary quietude; it seems harmless enough for ignorance to be bliss, considering how long they've been each other's.


Julie G So, let's see, we've got some options here:

"one and done"
"one pump jump"
"one stop shopping"

Let me just tell you this. . . I waited patiently for the perfect first boyfriend/romantic love. . . and if I'd have married that young man, I'd have had the marriage annulled by the end of the first year. Even before we hit the 2 year mark, I knew I'd end up like Sylvia Plath if I didn't break things off with him. Let's just say that none of my children receive the "wait for marriage" message at my house.


message 14: by Bonnie G. (last edited Nov 23, 2022 01:03PM) (new)

Bonnie G. Julie wrote: "Bonnie,
Your comment is so kind. Thank you. I feel a real connection with her. I really do.
By the way--I highly recommend both this one and HAPPY ALL THE TIME to you. I thought of you while I was ..."


I will get on that! She wrote a lot given how young she was when she died. It is really helpful to have an idea of where to start. Thanks Julie.


message 15: by Julie (last edited Nov 23, 2022 12:18PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Julie G Bonnie,
It may sound corny, but I think I had a smile on my face throughout the entire read of Happy All the Time. She seems to offer so many memorable characters, including at least one female, Jewish character in all of her stories that is so real, so complicated and so wonderful. I have wondered at her own background, if she grew up in a Jewish family, but I haven't yet figured it out. She may have been like me, a woman who grew up in a multicultural community and had a true love of diversity. I feel so truly fond of her, I almost can't stand it that I didn't know her, while she was alive.


message 16: by Bonnie G. (new)

Bonnie G. Julie wrote: "Bonnie,
It may sound corny, but I think I had a smile on my face throughout the entire read of Happy All the Time. She seems to offer so many memorable characters, including at least one female, Je..."


Not corny at all. Jennifer and I were just talking in another thread about books that bring joy. I am so glad this was one for you, because when it happens it is the best. I wish I was the sort of person who responded well to books with clever cats or families making gingerbread houses - it would be so much easier to find that high!


Julie G Oh, do I understand. Yes, I never seem to be won over by clever cat mysteries (though I do love cats!), or simple stories.


message 18: by Sarah (new)

Sarah Yep, plenty of options:

"one and done"
"one pump jump"
"one stop shopping”
“soup to nuts”

I hear you. I waited… somewhat patiently… for the perfect marriage proposal, and it came. Unlike you, I think I may have screwed up in sabotaging that one, as he makes his now-wife gnocchi from scratch, and salads from their backyard garden, and runs a local food pantry for needy neighbors out of his garage. (not even kidding -argh!)

Good on you for breaking things off with that first, perfect young man (your “Dean”?), and for trashing that “wait for marriage” myth in your own fam. It’s good to wait for love, I think, or at least for safety. But I think very few men since the beginning of time have kept their end of the "let's wait" bargain, anyway, so why should women?


message 19: by JanB (new)

JanB What a lovely thoughtful review Julie!


message 20: by Zoeytron (new)

Zoeytron I rarely use the word "thoughtful" when commenting on a review, but it is the only one that will do here. You have given us much to ponder, Julie.


message 21: by Lisa (new)

Lisa It sounds like this novel is about following your path in all aspects of life. Some of us are better at listening for those clues and opportunities that abound when we're paying attention.

And I'll chime in about what Sarah says about waiting for a first sexual partner that feels right--desire and safety are important IMHO.


Julie G Thanks, Jan. You're a thoughtful friend.
xoxo


Julie G ZT,
That is very kind. I'm not sure I can relax until I read the rest of Colwin's work, at this point.


message 24: by Julie (last edited Nov 25, 2022 08:43AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Julie G Hi Lisa,
I hope you had a lovely Thanksgiving yesterday.
I agree with both you and Sarah, that it is ideal for any young person to seek out love and security in their first sexual encounters, but I do also want to clarify that my original "thoughts," (that echo Colwin's), were about the finality of having one sexual partner for life. I think these are two completely independent ideas.


message 25: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Julie wrote: "my original "thoughts," (that echo Colwin's), were about the finality of having one sexual partner for life."

I know very few people of my generation who have had only one sexual partner. I think each individual needs to be true to themselves. That said, I do believe that if we commit to a monogamous relationship that it is important to honor that commitment. I know couples that experimented with open relationships. These relationships ultimately failed, or with much angst transformed into monogamous ones.


Persephone's Pomegranate Lovely review Julie.


Julie G Lisa,
I am always so appreciative of your perspective, and your friendship.


Julie G Thank you, PP!
xoxo


message 29: by Chris (new) - added it

Chris B Wonderful review Julie. I agree with others that it was very thoughtful - and thought provoking. You make me want to read it to discover for myself.


message 30: by Robin (new)

Robin Dear Julie. It's wonderful to see your connection with and appreciation for this author. I will have to read her too, some day soon!

As for the institution of marriage, I think it's painfully obvious to many of us that there's something about it that doesn't quite work. Your thoughtful questions are absolutely worth asking, and pondering.


message 31: by Carmen (new) - added it

Carmen Wonderful review.


Julie G Chris,
The good news about Laurie Colwin's books is that I have found all of them, easily, through my library system. The other good news: they are all so compelling, it's like I never want them to end.


Julie G Robin,
Yes, there is something about the institution of marriage that isn't working, and I've been worried lately that I'm turning into some type of "Debbie Downer" on the topic. When young people tell me they're getting married now, I find myself asking, "Why??"


Julie G Thanks, Carmen.
xoxo


message 35: by Bonnie G. (new)

Bonnie G. Julie wrote: "When young people tell me they're getting married now, I find myself asking, "Why?? ..."

I went through this too! But I have a few friends who have wonderful relationships 20 and even 30+ years into their marriages, and I envy the heck out of them. One couple, dear friends of mine for 30 years, eloped (while one was still in college I think) nearly 40 years ago and are happily travelling the world together post-retirement. They adore and support one another and their 2 kids as a full time job. True story about this couple (Steph, if you read this I apologize for stealing your story!) I used to work with the husband in this couple -- he was an amazing lawyer and a mentor to me. One day something came up and a senior partner marched into his office and announced that my friend would have to work through the weekend. That weekend the couple in question was taking a babymoon before their second. They had reservations and care for their preschooler and there was not another weekend that was going to work. My friend explained this, and said that I could handle the matter and that he would check in with me over the weekend. The partner said he wanted a more senior lawyer on it so my friend would have to cancel the babymoon and then said "sometimes you have to choose between your work and your family." My friend stood up and said "thank you for making this so easy." He picked up his desk photos and walked out of the firm, never to return. It remains one of the greatest moments I witnessed in my professional life, and the embodiment of my relationship goals, though sadly I was simply a spectator and never reached anything close in my own life. I tell the story as an answer to your question. Why? The possibility of this is why.


message 36: by K Reads (new) - added it

K Reads Bonnie G. wrote: "Julie wrote: "When young people tell me they're getting married now, I find myself asking, "Why?? ..."

I went through this too! But I have a few friends who have wonderful relationships 20 and eve..."


Wow. Powerful story, Bonnie. I also feel like, post-civil-rights-act signing, men are rewarded by society for answering (and acting) the way he did in that moment. Maybe it is rare? Anyway, I feel like women answering that question and taking that action ("take this job/and shove it") somehow reads as the classic general attitude about working moms as a whole. Like, after you have a baby, everyone is just waiting for you to quit--to decide that the hours/career/sacrifices aren't worth it, so they can both applaud your decision and roll their eyes at how unreliable or unstable your position always was.

Also: I think I'm just jealous. But I'm now intrigued enough to read this book!! I loved the quote Julie pulled from the book about desiring "the destination [more than] the person. Being near him gave me access to something I needed to know." Yes. yes, yes.


message 37: by Bonnie G. (new)

Bonnie G. Kierstyn wrote: "Bonnie G. wrote: "Julie wrote: "When young people tell me they're getting married now, I find myself asking, "Why?? ..."

I went through this too! But I have a few friends who have wonderful relati..."


I can only speak for life in law firms, but no, my friend's behavior was not celebrated. My male colleagues mostly thought he was crazy and/or (their word) pussy-whipped -- so seen as less of a man. Me and his assistant (to whom we were both quite close) were the only ones cheering. Had he stayed at the firm my friend would have been set up to fail, work would have been pulled from him, and eventually he would have been fired. I am absolutely certain of this.

I love that quote Julie chose too, Kierstyn! Julie got this one on my short list TBR as well.


message 38: by K Reads (new) - added it

K Reads My male colleagues mostly thought he was crazy and/or (their word) pussy-whipped -- so seen as less of a man. "

Aha! Yes. A fate worse than death: the feminized man (leaving his J*O*B* for his family!). You're right. I'm so glad he was able to leave on his own terms. I know the intricacies of law-firm culture is rife with terror and intrigue alongside powerfully toxic "traditions" antithetical to having the freedom to live a somewhat "normal" life outside of it. The price one pays for a position of power? And if he showed that he didn't worship the power structure ("do anything to get ahead!"), I'm sure you are right: he would have been toast. The American "work" cult mentality at its most toxic....


message 39: by Bonnie G. (new)

Bonnie G. Kierstyn wrote: "The American "work" cult mentality at its most toxic."

Preach!


Julie G Hi Bonnie,
I love the story you shared, but I can't help but notice it is a success story about love and connection, rather than marriage. I am all about love, and commitment, but it's the legal and religious concepts of marriage I struggle with now.


Julie G Kierstyn,
If I can direct anyone's attention to Laurie Colwin's work now, it thrills me!
I'm currently reading the last novel she wrote before she died, A BIG STORM KNOCKED IT OVER, and I'm just freaking loving it, too.
I feel lulled by her stories, and I'm not sure that I've ever declared anything so corny before!


message 42: by Lisa (new)

Lisa My 2 cents on the marriage question. So the love, comittment and connection is most important, yes. I have been happily married for over 37 years, and wouldn't trade this experience for anything. Is it always sunshine and roses? No. We work at it; we communicate well and talk through the issues. And like any long term relationship we have ups and downs as we change and then readjust until we find a new rhythm.

The legal part is for all those things that require it like insurance coverage, getting your spouse's pension if they pre-decease you, etc. Don't discount these things; they can make a huge difference in one's economic situation. And being a spouse is stronger than a POA when it comes to health decisions.


Julie G Lisa,
I have been married for 27 years myself, so I'm no stranger to the ups and downs of married life. My query of "Why marry," now, from my current age and perspective is not about the joys and/or discontentment of a marriage, they are sincerely: Why marry?

Not everyone has a marriage where vows are made to God, but many of us do. We ask young people to make a commitment to God that they will marry "til death do they part," but can they even begin to grasp that, if their spouse is unfaithful or abandons the marriage, they will be placed in an impossible position, either to forfeit their promise to God, continue on in a miserable marriage, and or remain legally married for the rest of their life?

You mention the legal benefits, and yes, as I mentioned in my review, I have received such benefits on many occasions. But: why? I can't help but think of marriage now but a way to make people behave better and/or control them. Like, WHY have we designed the laws this way? The only reason that a married spouse has the power they do is because we've MADE it that way.


message 44: by Jonathan (new)

Jonathan O'Neill How timely that I've come across this comments section now, having just read Tolstoy's 'The Kreutzer Sonata'! Julie, you must read it! Tolstoy takes the idea to an extreme and in a disturbing manner, he actually argues for aiming at what he calls the true Christian ideal of complete chastity but it would likely be an interesting read for you given your recent thoughts on marriage. Even moreso his "sequel" (a clarification on the key points of the novel) to the Kreutzer which often comes included with the novel :)


message 45: by Heidi (new)

Heidi Moving review— I’m not familiar with this author but am interested in checking her books out.


debbicat *made of stardust* Excellent review! I’m adding this book so thanks for putting the author ✍️ on my radar. Interesting discussion. I don’t have any answers but you certainly have me thinking!


message 47: by K Reads (new) - added it

K Reads Thanks, Julie! Put them both on my list. I’m already haunted by the fact that she died at 48. It looks like she left a lot of titles for us to discover anyway.


Julie G Jonathan,
I just went to your review of it. I think I might be scared to read it right now!
It's interesting that you made a joke in your response, wondering about the state of Tolstoy's marriage as he wrote it, and I would like to point out again, that these particular thoughts on the nature of WHY we marry has nothing to do with a happy or an unhappy marriage. We know that the emotional "state of being" of a marriage can change many times, throughout the years; I'm more interested in the bigger question that I think Laurie Colwin asks, through her character: is marriage, in its current form, still serving us? Is it necessary? Does it restrict/benefit one person more than the other?


Julie G And, by the way: I'm not necessarily looking for the answer TONIGHT! Laurie Colwin asked these questions 30 years ago, and Tolstoy asked them many years before that.


Julie G Kierstyn,
It makes me smile, to see that you understand the problem. Yes--luckily she was a prolific writer, from a young age, but it makes me very sad, knowing that she was really getting into her professional groove, as she died. I have a serious professional crush on her now.


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